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titticaca	Stickers	Lead	[-]
Posts: 524 (19 Jun, 2009 10:50) Sussex County Div1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Would it be a good idea for the Club/HISC to produce a car sticker along the lines of 'Support the Hornets', 'Horsham FC's Back in Town!' or the old chestnut 'Don't follow me, follow HFC'? A couple of hundred of those around town might generate renewed interest in the club to attract those 'missing' 200 supporters (and hopefully a few more newcomers).
sarf		#1	[-]
Posts: 1735 (19 Jun, 2009 10:55) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It's a thought Mr Titticaca. There was a free HFC supplement in the WSCT a couple of years ago. Not the clubs idea but if it made a few bob for the paper maybe they could be nudged into action again. All in the game yo, all in the game.
Geek Adonis		#2	[-]
Posts: 198 (19 Jun, 2009 12:51) W.Sussex Premier Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have a few merchandising ideas in mind, including car stickers and air fresheners. Depending on what sort of support I get from the Club, I will probably be financing it myself like I did with the end of Queen Street merchandise. (All profit will be going to the Club though)
Uppark Hornet		#3	[-]
Posts: 262 (19 Jun, 2009 19:39) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	John and I are meeting with members of the HISC Mgmt Committee in the next two week and this will include PR ideas. All thoughts , either posted here, passed to the Club Committee or HISC are welcome.
Joe4Chairman		#4	[-]
Posts: 60 (19 Jun, 2009 22:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I suggested to Hampshire Hornet that the club should market some HFC fob-watches!!! They would be a novelty gift that would be collectable and yet, people like me could use them!!!!! Woo!!! (I like beer!)
sarf		#5	[-]
Posts: 1737 (20 Jun, 2009 12:12) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Current thoughts: I would approach the WSCT and, if they were minded to organise another supplement, offer cooperation - 30,000 of those through Horsham and district letter boxes would be a start: Day in the life of a non-league star, the challenge of ground-sharing, the pleasure of being back in Horsham, purchasing and saving the Holbrook Club from developers, a community club owned by the community for the community, etc, etc. You would also need a fresh angle to attract media interest - the fresher the better. First thought is to do a deal with the YM and offer joint season tickets: A game a week in Horsham! Not for the money but because, if the club puts itself about a bit sell it, the idea will attract more than local media. It's a story, a new angle . . . that's all they ask, and it's not so gimmicky as to kill the promo itself. Imo, those two angles cover the Horsham community as well as chunks of the non-league community. All in the game yo, all in the game. Last Edited By: sarf 20 Jun, 2009 12:14. Edited 1 times.
Burger2008		#6	[-]
Posts: 35 (21 Jun, 2009 02:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If people had sense, would watch non league football week in week out. Why pay 25 - 30 quid a week when great footy for less than a tenner. Personally do not think any extra advertising will bring any more fans. Evevry interested is aware of Horsham potential already.
BALD BLOKE		#7	[-]
Posts: 1449 (21 Jun, 2009 05:15) I have the power to delete your message Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The only way you will get loads of people through the door in this day and age is to firstly provide the facilities, a ground with a great atmosphere and finally, entertaining football. QS had all of those things (with the great football bit happening in the latter years). The only way to get masses through the gates is with a new ground. IMO, no amount of marketing is going to make Gorings Mead an attractive place. Don't get me wrong, many from both clubs have done tremendous work to get us there and back in Horsham, which is great, but on a cold, rainy Saturday in November, it aint gonna be a fantastic place to be (except for that 1st round proper game against Southampton). I think a lot of people are of the belief that a return to Horsham is going to bring back the 500+ gates. It may do for the first few games and it may do for big games but I think on the whole, gates won't be that much better than those at Worthing averaging around 260 (last year was 250). I hope I am wrong. oh he's the [insert name here] the rinky dink [insert name here] and it's as plain as your nose, he's the one and only truly original [insert name] gonna score the gooooaaaaals see, works for anyone. That makes it the best song ever.
sarf		#8	[-]
Posts: 1738 (21 Jun, 2009 07:45) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Spoken like a true Lardy Boy, Mr Bloke. With such limited terracing, GM is certainly inferior to QS is in its Lardy-friendly options, but in what other ways do you find it inferior to QS? There will certainly be an issue at GM with the temporary stands when it's raining (Erith?) and - if I understand correctly - there won't be any on site parking but, to be honest, I'd have thought the clubhouse facilities and seating options make it more friendly to many, perhaps but not only older people and families. Fwiw, I think a lot of people will like GM and I can see us regaining much of the attendance lost on our exile to the coast. Subject, of course, to how the team is doing . . . All in the game yo, all in the game.
Horseman		#9	[-]
Posts: 378 (21 Jun, 2009 16:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Interesting thoughts. Not sure I agree with the order though BB. The atmosphere & quality/style of football would top my list. If you achieve that, I don't think it matters too much about the facilities (within reason of course). However, one thing seems to be missing from your list of requirements, the location. Getting back to Horsham is one thing, but to the heart of the town centre is another, and that is where every football club belongs. The average gate we were getting near the end of our final season at QS could be a bit misleading, after all, it came on the back of our magnificent cup run. I think we will see a rise in numbers now we are at GM, purely because of its location. We could have a successful season, which would see the numbers rise still further. I'm not talking about hundreds, but an increase around the 50 to 100 mark would be a great start. What worries me though, is IF we do end up at HO, then the location would not be conducive to the foot traveller and the fan making a last minute decision to go. I believe the fact that now fans can leave for a home game at 2:45 and be home by 5:15 is sometimes attractive. Whilst HO is probably the best solution , if it comes to fruition, I feel the numbers will drop again. I believe we have proof of that already, the FREE bus that left from HO, how many actually made it to HO, very few!!!. Yes, there will be buses to HO, but for a home ground I feel it is going to be just too far out of town for some fans, no matter what transport is available. In a nutshell, what IS important is LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. IMO no amount of marketing is going to change that. Personally, I will go wherever we play, because I enjoy it. Not everyone is in the same boat though.
Joe4Chairman		#10	[-]
Posts: 62 (21 Jun, 2009 21:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	No, i agree with the long-nosed fellow proceeding this. IMO, too many people are still standing on the port (carrying on with the nautical theme) of 'Glory-hunters'. They missed the boat last season by choice. It is a shame though....
BALD BLOKE		#11	[-]
Posts: 1450 (22 Jun, 2009 07:52) I have the power to delete your message Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The point I was trying to make had nothing to do with Lardyism and the order in which I had put the points had no intention. The point I was attempting to make is that GM isn't a great place to stand and watch football and I believe that does matter to people. Certain grounds have a buzz about them. I always got that at QS and regularly ge that at other grounds. I have never got that at GM. Perhaps it is just me, and I am entiltled to that opinion. I just worry that many are expecting the crowds to go up just because we are back in Horsham. For the benefit of those who have yet to see GM, one temp stand is a good 5-6m behind the fencing behind one of the goals with a road in between. If anyone wants shelter from the rain then the masses of people will all have to huddle in one bit of terrace which is about 10 foot long, one section of seating which is the same in dimension, a covered section which is an afterthought added to the tractor shed or the main stand which offers little weather protection. I was always under the impression that the league wished all grounds to be fenced in yet this one isn't (not pitches but spectator areas) I fully understand that we have to make the best of things with as little financial outlay as possible. The one and only very simple point I was trying to make is that I do not believe that the crowds will substantially increase over the course of the season, unless we get another cup run. Reading many posts since the news broke that we were going to GM, I get the impression that others expect otherwise. oh he's the [insert name here] the rinky dink [insert name here] and it's as plain as your nose, he's the one and only truly original [insert name] gonna score the gooooaaaaals see, works for anyone. That makes it the best song ever.
Edam The Great		#12	[-]
Posts: 2786 (22 Jun, 2009 08:04) Isthmian Premier Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I certainly believe we can get the crowds up from last season, but I agree with Pete that GM is a poor place to enjoy your football. The advantage is the decent clubhouse, but not allowing people to park will have a bad effect. -------------------------------------------------------------- You might as well be dead instead of afraid to fall
Uppark Hornet		#13	[-]
Posts: 263 (22 Jun, 2009 08:05) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Just to say that neither of the two temporary stands are in their final location yet. The plan is they will both be located opposite the the main stand. It wasn't necessary for Ryman approval to have them in their final locations and we wanted the ground to dry out before we move them over the summer so as to not damage the pitch. I would like to think we can create an atmosphere at least as good as that for the last YM game of the season when Hornets supporters were the majority present but accept it is not QS. Last Edited By: Uppark Hornet 22 Jun, 2009 12:37. Edited 1 times.
sarf		#14	[-]
Posts: 1739 (22 Jun, 2009 09:40) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Interesting to consider recent HFC average league-only home attendances: 2004/05: Div 1: 380 2005/06: Div 1: 389 2006/07: Prem: 474 2007/08: Prem: 537 - the cup run season 2008/09: Worthing Season-on-season, the cup run added 53 to the average. Perhaps the more significant factors relating to the attendance increase in recent years are (a) success - being in or very close to the play-off places (b) the increasing popularity of non-league football generally, and (c) promotion i.e. Premier league football. Fwiw, I think we'll do just fine at YM. All in the game yo, all in the game. Last Edited By: sarf 22 Jun, 2009 09:43. Edited 2 times.
BALD BLOKE		#15	[-]
Posts: 1451 (22 Jun, 2009 10:09) I have the power to delete your message Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Uppark Hornet wrote: Just to say that neither of the two temporary stands are in its final location yet. The plan is they will both be located opposite the the main stand. It wasn't necessary for Ryman approval to have them in their final locations and we wanted the ground to dry out before we move them over the summer so as to not damage the pitch. That is very reassuring to hear oh he's the [insert name here] the rinky dink [insert name here] and it's as plain as your nose, he's the one and only truly original [insert name] gonna score the gooooaaaaals see, works for anyone. That makes it the best song ever.
Finchleyjohn		#16	[-]
Posts: 143 (22 Jun, 2009 12:11) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Only 199 fans to go - my Horsham exile (exile from the town in general and not the football) comes to an end this summer, so i'll be there week in and out, covered stands or not. And i'll be bringing the boy along as soon as he's able to appreciate it. Mrs FJ is excited at the prospect of saturdays exploring her new home and the delights that Sussex have to offer. I'm yet to tell her that she'll be doing it alone for the most part. i'll need a new forum name too.
Uppark Hornet		#17	[-]
Posts: 264 (22 Jun, 2009 12:21) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"ExFinchleyJohn"?
MACROSTH		#18	[-]
Posts: 940 (22 Jun, 2009 12:23) Isthmian Div1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think a number of the comments on hear make interesting reading, I am concerned that if the club do not attract more supporters now that we are back in the town, how long will they be able to keep a good team together? It makes you wonder where last seasons absent fans went on match days, did they support another club or are they just biding their time awaiting the return of the Hornets? Chances are, we will not know the answer to this until the season gets underway, its a real shame we have NO planned pre season matches taking place at G.M. as this would give the club an opportunity to welcome some of the missing fans back, one suggestion might be to offer slightly reduced admission prices to the first half dozen home fixtures, or perhaps offer free admission to the sixth home game as long as proof of a programme or ticket was purchased for the previous five fixtures, that would also help the club by selling more programmes and overall would probably mean they wouldn't loose out in the long term. I think there needs to be an incentive to get people through the gates to start with but it would be pointless doing it on the first game, having been to the first five there is more of a chance of someone becoming addicted especially if the club makes another good start to the season. I hope those supporters, for whom the journey to Worthing seemed a bit too far will come & watch the team again, the standard of football is still very high and you would have to travel a long way to see better games, as far as atmosphere at G.M. goes I think a lot depends on the regular fans to create it, but it's obvious you will never ever have a Queen Street feeling again wherever we play.
sarf		#19	[-]
Posts: 1741 (22 Jun, 2009 12:56) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"Mrs FJ is excited at the prospect of saturdays exploring her new home and the delights that Sussex have to offer." NotJiltedJohn? Ex musical partner, of course, of the infamous Wild Jeff Barrett. Is that the time >> All in the game yo, all in the game.

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