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Posts: 364 ( 6 Jun, 2009 11:09) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I see on HR that a league club may be interested in Sam Page. It would be a great shame to see him move on - he's been solid for us and a great influence on the team. On the other hand it would be a great opportunity for him and I think we would all wish him the best of luck, wherever he goes. Also a great recommendation for HFC if we allow players to develop their careers. I presume he is under a contract and so the club would get some sort of compensation for him, which would help to fill the enormous gap he would leave behind. It's not the despair that kills you, it's the hope
sarf		#1	[-]
Posts: 1724 ( 6 Jun, 2009 11:23) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm impressed with how HR keeps the stories coming through the close season. It's good communication generally as well as dedication from Mark. Thanks! All in the game yo, all in the game.
Scuttlebutt		#2	[-]
Posts: 365 ( 6 Jun, 2009 11:32) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Indeed Sarf - thanks to Mark - quicker and a lot more accurate than the WSCT! It's not the despair that kills you, it's the hope
Eddie French is God		#3	[-]
Posts: 5732 ( 6 Jun, 2009 12:11) GZF Ton-Up Kid Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well, here is an amazing opportunity to raise some much needed funds for the budget. Sam is under contract, and therefore we would be due some kind of 'transfer fee'. The question is - is Sam Page better than Rooky ? If so, more than £10,000 should be sought !!
Hemel		#4	[-]
Posts: 389 ( 6 Jun, 2009 13:06) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It would be a huge shame to see Sam go, but if he does, it is a win-win situation. He gets back into the pro game, we get a transfer fee. It would, however, leave us with only one fit centre-back. Yet another return for the excellent Andy Howard? For I'd rather stay here, with all the madmen, Than perish with the sad men roaming free...
sarf		#5	[-]
Posts: 1725 ( 6 Jun, 2009 13:17) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hmmm. We've had nothing but trouble trying to get someone close to as good as Rooky since he left. Commanding centre backs? All in the game yo, all in the game.
Gravsie Jnr		#6	[-]
Posts: 1127 ( 6 Jun, 2009 17:15) W.Sussex Div 5 North Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It would be a greats hame to lose him as he is a fantastic player and really shone at the back for us last year. He is a rock. But it will bring in much needed funds which i hope would be given to JM to boost his playing budget. Afterall it will take a lot to replace him! I am the younger of the 2!
Uppark Hornet		#7	[-]
Posts: 260 ( 6 Jun, 2009 18:22) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This is probably one debate upon which I should exercise a "dignified silence". However..........blow that, notwithstanding the win win argument, I hope that following discussions, our team captain decides to stay.
matt		#8	[-]
Posts: 3986 ( 6 Jun, 2009 18:51) Conference South Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes it would be sad to lose him but I've always felt I would also be proud to see any of our players progress like that to a league club. It's those who move sideways or backwards that I can't understand (unless we get a nice fee for them!) ------------------------------------ A founder member of the Banner Boys
bognorhorshamite		#9	[-]
Posts: 207 ( 6 Jun, 2009 22:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I would hope given the fact Sam already has experience at football league level it may play in our favour and he pledges loyalty to us, although I wish him luck if he decides to leave and have another go at that level. Personally, I think he is one of the best defenders we've had since big John Kirby.
sarf		#10	[-]
Posts: 1726 ( 7 Jun, 2009 16:26) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Whether it's Tottenham selling Carrick and Berbatov or Horsham selling Rooky, I've never understood clubs selling their best players. Not only don't I understand the logic of the argument, but I absolutely don't grasp the lack of ambition for your club. Next season will be about survival again - as every season must inevitably be until relegation is mathematically impossible - and if we go down because we conceded too many goals I will personally come around to all your houses and post something originating from a canine through each of your letter box's. A big canine. All in the game yo, all in the game.
matt		#11	[-]
Posts: 3987 ( 7 Jun, 2009 18:22) Conference South Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I guess that's the difference between us as supporters and this would be a rather boring place if we all had the same views! ------------------------------------ A founder member of the Banner Boys
Horseman		#12	[-]
Posts: 360 ( 7 Jun, 2009 20:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Not sure I agree with the comments about the lack of ambition of our club. JM has done brilliantly to ensure most of last seasons squad stays intact, whilst also adding two quality players at the same time, and with a limited budget to boot. Ambition is a funny thing though, should we be standing in the way of any ambitions that Sam may harbour. He is quality, there is no doubt about that, and if he goes it will be a massive loss. I don't think it is about loyalty, I believe everybody should strive to better themselves, and if an opportunity presents itself for someone to move up in the world then it should be taken. Who are we to stand in the way of progress, I for one would be proud to say that we once had a player of his calibre playing for us. I must ask the question though, I assume Sam was on a contract for last season only, and that he has now signed a new one for the coming season. If I am right then he could have just left us at the end of the season for nothing. I mean these clubs that may be interested in him haven't just come out of the woodwork. He could have just gone without saying a word, but now we could get suitably rewarded for his talents. If it does happen, then it sounds like a good bit of business to me, on both fronts. The club & the player benefit. Whatever happens, this is definitely a WIN WIN situation.
bognorhorshamite		#13	[-]
Posts: 208 ( 7 Jun, 2009 21:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I agree with Horseman, if a player has the ambition to play for a much bigger side then provided all parties are entirely happy and honest with each other then the club should not stand in his way. As for the Carrick and Berbatov example, the key thing with both those transfers was that they both made it very clear to Spurs at the time that they wanted to leave and go to progress their career - I myself am a Spurs fan and I think its entirely understandable, provided Sam doesn't act in the way Berbatov did I wouldn't begrudge him leaving. Unfortunately, clubs our size are not in a position to turn our nose up at good money offers for our best players, layers come and go, losing Sam would not be a disaster for us as JM will surely replace him but it ultimately rests on Sam's decision.
Eddie French is God		#14	[-]
Posts: 5733 ( 8 Jun, 2009 08:15) GZF Ton-Up Kid Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Clearly we want to keep the best players we have. The Rooky scenario is a very good point by Sarf. We took £10,000 but up until now have not recruited a striker remotely as good. I am hopeful that this will change with our recent acquisitions. But we must weigh this up with the other issue people have with the current set up. We have a very good 9 or 10 players, but do we have the depth we will need when injuries/suspensions set in ? And would any fee for Sam Page help this ? Carrick and Berbatov went because Spurs could not offer them Champions League Football. When you consider Carrick has won the Premiership, the League Cup, European Cup, World Club Championship etc, and Berba has warmed a bench - you can't argue with the decisions. We also got decent money, just did not spend it well.
sarf		#15	[-]
Posts: 1727 ( 8 Jun, 2009 10:04) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The reason/s why they went is not on point; the argument is whether a club is better off with the player or the cash. £10,000 in the Isthmian Prem is, say, the wages of one decent player for a season. Then it's gone, together with the player you sold. Case in point: The Rooky money lasted about 5 months - it all went on wages and at the end of it we had nothing. Including Rooky. I've always found it interesting how people seemed instinctively drawn to the money. The money always gets flittered away. The club is never better off for selling, unless someone has examples? All in the game yo, all in the game.
Hemel		#16	[-]
Posts: 390 ( 8 Jun, 2009 12:52) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think the point in this case is not that people are being drawn to the money, but that if Sam does go, at least we'll get some money for him. Ideally, from our point of view, he stays, and we live within our means. But playing league football again must be tempting - providing he doesn't just become a relatively poorly paid squad player in League 2. For I'd rather stay here, with all the madmen, Than perish with the sad men roaming free...
Scuttlebutt		#17	[-]
Posts: 366 ( 8 Jun, 2009 13:59) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I agree Hemel, this is not about valuing money over a player. We all hope that Sam will stay with us. However, since he has previously played full time at league level the offer of getting back there must be tempting for him. It's not quite the same as a non-league player who has a full time job and needs to weigh up whether the risk is worth the reward, or whether a guranteed squad place is better than warming a League 2 bench or worse. In addition, thinking back to when Rookie left us, if a club come in with an offer for a player, if that player really wants to go - for money or progression - what can HFC do? They can turn down the bid - but then have to contend with an unhappy demotivated player - who at the end of the contract period can leave for nothing. Sometimes it better to accept the inevitable and make some money while you can - and then use that money to back fill. I agree it's not a great option - but it is a fact of life at our level - where bigger fish live off smaller fish. One last thing - as I did the player sponsorship for Sam last season - am I in line for a cut of any transfer fee??? It's not the despair that kills you, it's the hope
sarf		#18	[-]
Posts: 1729 ( 8 Jun, 2009 14:45) Who? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm not sure we do all hope Sam stays. I rather got the impression people are keen for the cash. All in the game yo, all in the game.
Scuttlebutt		#19	[-]
Posts: 367 ( 8 Jun, 2009 15:03) W.Sussex Div 1 Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I guess there's a question of the scale of the payment. If it's £10k - no-one would be interested. If the offer was £1M - I think we might jumpt at it. It's a bit like that old joke - "we know what sort of girl you are...we're just haggling over the price!" It's not the despair that kills you, it's the hope
Horseman		#20	[-]
Posts: 361 ( 8 Jun, 2009 16:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	For me, it is never about the money. Of course I would love to see Sam stay, who wouldn't, but you've got to be honest, we have been very lucky to have a player of his calibre playing for us. What I am sure everybody is thinking, if we were to lose him, we would be better of with some form of transfer fee than none at all. As for the Rooky situation, if a player wants to go, you can't really stop them, and make no mistake, he wanted out. Players like Rooky & Sam are always going to be hard to replace. If quality players go, and we get nothing for them, then that would be something to kick up a fuss about. The fact that HFC benefits financially is surely better than nothing. However, I guess it could be argued that we would be better off having Sam for this season, and just letting him go for nothing at the end. Would we benefit better with that scenario? I'm not so sure. But I guess if Sam helped us stay in the Division, and of course stayed fit, then that would probably be worth more than any transfer fee. I do believe that in the not to distant future we will be able to hang on to the quality players and make a push for promotion, but IMO now is not the time to go up. We don't have the facilities or the income. Our Ryman Premier status is what is important for now, along with building a new home. Once this is achieved then I believe we would be in a better position to achieve this. Lets get our priorities straight. It makes me laugh you know, so often last season, I heard derisory comments made about certain ex players dropping down the divisions etc. The same thing could be being said about Sam, IMO he could easily hold his own playing full time for a league club. Whatever happens we're a team, and not reliant on a single individual. That's not to say we would be better of without him, because we wouldn't.

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